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रामायण

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(प्रस्तावक: Wolf १४:३६, १३ जनवरी २००७ (UTC))

What is still expected from this article:

• What is still expected from this article:
• A lot of the links are red, these will have to be linked to pages.
• It is not balanced; some of the sections are very small, and some of them are very large.
• External links will need to be added. Please see en:Wikipedia:External links.
• Reference/sources will need to be added. These are very necessary. Please look at en:WP:REF.
• The text needs to be checked with निर्वाचित लेख आवश्यकताएं. --वुल्फ़^{वार्ता} १६:१५, १ फरवरी २००७ (UTC)

The रामायण article has improved enormously, thanks to everybody's help. I just have one request. In my opinion more Reference-footnotes (they are footnotes; but they are references) need to be added. The gereneral references already given can be used. Just to be a bit more specific, more specific sources can be added. For example

“	अधिकांश विद्वान (जिनका भारत में बाहुल्य है) कहते हैं कि यह ६०० ईपू से पहले लिखा गया।	„

Of my understanding, this sentence means that the रामायण text was writen in 600 BC. But the English Wikipedia says:

“	In its current form, the Valmiki Ramayana is dated variously from 500 BCE to 100 BCE, or about co-eval to early versions of the Mahabhārata.	„

It is therefore we need to know where the information on the Hindi Wikipedia comes from. You can use any of the ones you have already put (those are these ones:

• • रामचरितमानस, टीकाकार: हनुमानप्रसाद पोद्दार, प्रकाशक एवं मुद्रक: गीताप्रेस, गोरखपुर
  • श्रीमद्वाल्मीकीय रामायण (प्रथम एवं द्वितीय खंड), सचित्र, हिंदी अनुवाद सहित, प्रकाशक एवं मुद्रक: गीताप्रेस, गोरखपुर
  • कवितावली, प्रकाशक एवं मुद्रक: गीताप्रेस, गोरखपुर
  • रामायण के कुछ आदर्श पात्र, प्रकाशक एवं मुद्रक: गीताप्रेस, गोरखपुर
  • वाल्मीकीय रामायण, प्रकाशक: देहाती पुस्तक भंडार, दिल्ली)

This is coming from note4. (सिंह, बी.पी. (२००१)। गोविन्द चन्द्र पाण्डे: Life, Thought and Culture of India — “The Valmiki Ramayana: A Study”। Centre of Studies in Civilizations, नया दिल्ली। आइएसबीएन ८१-८७५८६-०७-०।). Looks like some issue with the template so link is not pointing to correct reference. We got to read complete paragraph - अधिकांश विद्वान (जिनका भारत में बाहुल्य है) कहते हैं कि यह ६०० ईपू से पहले लिखा गया। उसके पीछे युक्ति यह है कि महाभारत जो इसके पश्चात आया बौद्ध धर्म के बारे में मौन है यद्यपि उसमें जैन, शैव, पाशुपत आदि अन्य परम्पराओं का वर्णन है। अतः रामायण गौतम बुद्ध के काल के पूर्व का होना चाहिये। with reference. Also from english wikipedia in the Textual history section it is mentioned that - The events of the epic have also been dated to as early as 6000 BC by adherents of archaeoastronomy.[17]. So, there seem to be talk about two things (1) Ramayana in general and (2) About Valmiki Ramayana. (1) being in existence since 6000BC and (2) from around 500-100 BC. --मितुल १९:२०, २ फरवरी २००७ (UTC)

Sorry, I do not understand. For me the footnote is working, just clcik [४], and on the bottom click [४.१] and [१.२] to get up to the correct places. Otherwise, can you please explain what you meant? Thank you. --वुल्फ़^{वार्ता} १९:१५, ८ फरवरी २००७ (UTC)

These are needed to be a bit more specific and you can use the same source more than once (pages); as used in the English Wikipedia. This is at the bottom of the English Wikipedia article about Ramayana:

References

• • Milner Rabb, Kate, National Epics, 1896 - See eText Project Gutenburg
  • Raghunathan, N. (Trans), Srimad Valmiki Ramayanam, Vighneswara Publishing House, Madras (1981)
  • A different Song - Article from "The Hindu" August 12, 2005 - [2]
  • Dr. Gauri Mahulikar Effect Of Ramayana On Various Cultures And Civilisations, Ramayan Institute
  • Goldman, Robert P., The Ramayana of Valmiki: An Epic of Ancient India Princeton University *Press, 1999 ISBN 0-691-01485-X
  • S. S. N. Murthy, A note on the Ramayana, Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi [3]
  • Arya, Ravi Prakash (ed.). Ramayana of Valmiki: Sanskrit Text and English Translation. (English translation according to M. N. Dutt, introduction by Dr. Ramashraya Sharma, 4-volume set) Parimal Publications: Delhi, 1998 ISBN 81-7110-156-9

Footnotes

^ Note that the cerebral ṇ is due to infection by the word-initial r, see sandhi..

^ About 480,002 words, or a quarter of the length of the full text of the Mahabharata, or about four times the length of the Iliad.

^ Goldman, Robert P., The Ramayana of Valmiki: An Epic of Ancient India pp. 23

^ Robert P. Goldman, The Ramayana of Valmiki: An Epic of Ancient India, pp 5

^ Raghunathan, N. (trans.), Srimad Valmiki Ramayana

^ Arya, R. P. (ed.), Ramayana of Valmiki

^ Raghunathan, N. (Trans), Srimad Valmiki Ramayanam

^ The sixteen qualities are: 1. Gunavan – man of principles, 2. Veeryavan – man of valour, 3. Dharmajnaha – righteous, 4. Kruthajnaha – saviour, 5. Satyavakyaha – truthful, 6. Dhrudhavrataha – self confident, 7. Charithravan – with good conduct, 8. Sarvabhutha hithaha – compassionate to all creatures, 9. Vidwan - scholor of all arts, 10. Samarthaha – ablest, 11. Sadaika priyadarsanaha – ever pleasing to the eyes, 12. Atmavan – courageous, 13. Jithakrodhaha – one who controls his anger, 14. Dyuthiman – brilliant, 15 Anasuyakaha – with no jealousy, 16 Kasya bibhyati devascha jatha roshasya samyuge – one who when angry, makes even the god fearful

^ Atmanam Manusham Manye

^ In the Vedas Sita means furrow relating to a goddess of agriculture. - S.S.S.N. Murty, A note on the Ramayana

^ Goldman, Robert P., The Ramayana of Valmiki: An Epic of Ancient India pp 24

^ Rama - The story of a history - chennaionline.com

^ Goldman, Robert P., The Ramayana of Valmiki: An Epic of Ancient India pp 15-16

^ Goldman, Robert P., The Ramayana of Valmiki: An Epic of Ancient India pp 28

^ See Sankalia, H.D., Ramayana: Myth or Reality, New Delhi, 1963

^ Basham, A.L., The Wonder that was India, London, 1956, pp303

^ Goldman, Robert P., The Ramayana of Valmiki: An Epic of Ancient India p. 14

^ Prof. C. Krishnamurthy, Tamil literature through the ages, [1]

^ See A different song, The Hindu, Aug 12, 2005

^ See Effect Of Ramayana On Various Cultures And Civilisations

It is clearly visible thatt for example that "Goldman, Robert P., The Ramayana of Valmiki: An Epic of Ancient India" is used in the General References; and more specifically for each occasion in the footnotes. This needs to be fixed, and this article can become an article like this: ! Just one more push. That's all that is needed! --वुल्फ़^{वार्ता} १६:१५, १ फरवरी २००७ (UTC)

So I have added the Template:टीका-नहीं template on that page, which sums everything up. --वुल्फ़^{वार्ता} १६:४५, २ फरवरी २००७ (UTC)

To make it more clear, I have separated these into two section (like english wikipedia). More specific information like page numbers are still missing though.--मितुल १९:२०, २ फरवरी २००७ (UTC)

• बहूत समर्थन - फ़ाइनली अब समय अता है! यह विकिपीडिया:निर्वाचित लेख आवश्यकताएं स्टैंडर्ड्स डेफ़िनट्ली रीच करता है!! --वुल्फ़^{वार्ता} १४:३६, ९ फरवरी २००७ (UTC)
• पूर्ण समर्थन यह अब तक का हिन्दी विकिपीडिया का सबसे अच्छा और संपूर्ण लेख है।--मितुल १७:३९, ९ फरवरी २००७ (UTC)
• समर्थन.राजा राम^{बात करो} ०४:५६, १० फरवरी २००७ (UTC)